A new idea ive had

[Oaney]

I left an introduction post on the introduction board, but that post quickly ended up turning into a place for me to update the status of my very first idea. Ill post the link to this now, and then summarize my theories and current project.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=417&p=2429#p2429

To summarize, BBs have different frequencies that relate to different brain functions. Notes and musical composition have the same effects on mood. For instance a sharp note has energy, a flat note lacks energy. A major chord conveys happiness and positive feelings. A minor chord conveys sadness and melancholy. At the simplest of my theory, a combination of the two catagories can produce BOTH presets that are less than 10 lines long, and very powerful emotions.

I theorize that Major chords (I will use the middle C chord for simplicity) along with fast brainwave entrainment such as Beta frequencies (13-30 hertz) will produce feelings of excitement, energy, positive outward thinking. Think of it like hyper with happy.

Majors chords with a slow brainwave entrainment such as delta or theta (0.5-8 hertz) will produce feelings of well being, placidity, feelings that "everything is right with the world". Think of it like happy with calm.

Minor chords induce sadness. Sadness with fast brainwave entrainment will produce feelings of fear, anxiety, negativity. Think of this like Sad with hyper.

Minor chords with slow brainwave entrainment will produce feelings of zero self worth, pity, possibly even suicidal thoughts. Think of this like Sad with Calm.

Of course the specific frequencies chosen will produce different sensations, and the type of person listening to my theorized presets will greatly affect the outcome. For instance a very bubbly positive person listening to Sad and Calm (Minor chord with slow brainwave) may experience remorse or pity for another person, while a very quiet antisocial person may experience extreme sadness or suicidal tendencies.

I am in the process of creating these 4 presets and testing them on myself. I will make the 4 presets, or my entire directory available as soon as I finish.

Please keep in mind that although I have been toying with SBaGen on and off for the past 3 years or so, I am only beginning to write my own presets. The files I make available will be beginners attempts at trying a theory. In the future I hope to further expand my limited knowledge of "boxing" and begin to understand "spin" and how to incorporate that effectively into my presets.

The way things are going, I should have the 4 files available within a few hours. (after having solved that damn clipping issue.) haha

[Oaney]

I forgot to post the first post last night, so I just posted that, but I also have the files ready now.

Remember, these are VERY simple files. I am merely interested in the effects of the basics before I go any further. I would like you all to try these files and report anything that you think. Also feel free to edit and tweak my presets if you feel it helps your experience.

Firstly the Major chords. Major chords are "happy" chords at their most basic.

[Oaney]

Now the minor chords which are "sad" chords.

[redumbe]

thank you for sharing


peace


I'll try them all and keep you posted

[Oaney]

Unfortunately classes have started for me, I am going to be somewhat preoccupied with schoolwork.

I invite and encourage anyone and everyone to play around with my code, and with my general idea... as well as posting any thoughts and ideas you may have on the matter. I would love to hear from more experienced BB users regarding this specific combination, ie music, chords, harmonies, etc... with different BB speeds.

If someone has more free time and a different set of priorities than me, then please feel free to experiment and post your results here. If my "new idea" has already been done elsewhere, please inform me. I do not wish to step on anyones toes.

Naturally, I will work on this idea when I get the time and patience to sit down for a length of time, and continue to tweak and play, as well as developing new ideas.

Thanks!

[Tsuru Miyaguchi -san]

That sure is interesting, as a complete music noob I was not aware which frequencies might sound good and which not, Ill look in the chart and try this with more complex presets.

No idea what makes a chord either (no joke) other than its 3 tones.

Will single sounds always sound "happy"?

[Oaney]

A chord isn't always 3 notes. They are quite hard to explain for me as well, I only scratch the surface of music theory. And its not that single notes always sound "happy", major chords sound happy, and minor chords sound sad.

Lets use C_major_slow as an example. Here I am playing three tones continuously. Think of each tone as a note. If you have a piano or keyboard, find middle C and push C, E and G at the same time. This is a C major chord. It sounds upbeat and happy. If you want to make it sound sad play a C minor by hitting C, D#, G.

If you dont have access to a keyboard or piano, search youtube for keyboard lessons, C major and C minor. If you poke around a bit I am sure you will find a video of someone comparing the two chords. You will be able to hear the "happy" and "sad" I am talking about.

On a last note, some sbagen users have found frequencies that work well for what they are doing. I have taken a different approach here, using basic music theory as a basis for which tones sound good together. Music has been around forever, why reinvent the wheel? I merely changed the music notes into audio frequencies with the hopes that I could impose a mood, just like music how some songs make you happy and give you energy, other songs make you sad and want to cry.

[Tsuru Miyaguchi -san]

If you dont have access to a keyboard or piano, search youtube for keyboard lessons, C major and C minor. If you poke around a bit I am sure you will find a video of someone comparing the two chords. You will be able to hear the "happy" and "sad" I am talking about.

I actually heard the happy and sad in your examples.
The way I understood it the interval between the notes is important if it gets major or minor.

I tried one of my presets with the c major chord, with a slow beat it sounds more harmonic but with a fast one its hard to tell the difference.

What would be the next highest chord to the middle c major?

[Oaney]

Well as I understand it, you can have major and minor chords in any key. One step up from C major would be D major I suppose. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure you can have major and minor chords for all notes A-G. It is just a matter of choosing a root note, choosing either a major or minor 3rd, and a perfect 5th. Whether you choose a major 3rd or a minor 3rd determines if the chord will be major or minor.

This is right around where music theory goes beyond what I can comprehend. I know there are such things as natural chords, pentatonic scales, and other much more advanced things related to the harmonization of different notes, I just dont know how to create these more advanced things, it would take much more studying of music theory on my part, which i dont have time for at the moment.

Edit: Also, to address a second thing in your last post, the frequency of the binaural beat shouldnt affect the harmonization of the chord. It may make it sound a little different, but the chords I am describing are as if you pressed keys on the piano.This is not the case, this is false! See below

Actually now that I am thinking about it, adding in a binaural beat to a chord will change the frequency in each ear, so instead of hearing a C note, you will be hearing C minus a few hertz (more hertz the faster the BB is)... so you will be hearing something like a B# instead. Therefor the text in purple is no longer true!

Thank you for pointing that out, Im going to have to go back and listen closely for this! Very good point indeed!

[Fhyve]

An interesting thing to note, if you take a base frequency (say, 80) and you double it, you will get different octaves. 160, 320, 640 are all the same note, just higher. But, if you just go up by multiples of 80, you will get different notes in the harmonic series. A is 220, so A is also 110 and 440 but if you do 330, you will get a E, the top note in an A major chord. Going higher up in he series, at 550, you will hit the C# and at 660 you will get the E again. 770 will get you an interesting note, it is a F half sharp, this sounds interesting. 880 is A again. Go further and further up and you get more harmonies, more notes in the harmonic series. The notes are slightly out of tune from a musical scale but this is a mathematical scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_s ... 28music%29

I use this a little bit when making BBs.

[SinisterPsyche]

Just made this one with your idea, starts at low delta and goes up to high delta changing from c minor to f minor, very weird feeling especially at the chord change, indescribable bad + good at the same time kinda feeling

By the way i know extensive music theory while we're at it in this thread, need any info related to that just tell me... BTW love your idea about the chords, to me minor chords are beautiful and make listening a very enjoyable experience even without the binaurals.
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